Nomination Period Ends

Posted: January 12, 2008 by D. Collier in Uncategorized

As of 12:00 am PST, the nomination period for the Canadian Blog Awards has ended.

Over the next few days, the nominates will be examined to insure that they do in fact belong to their nominated categories, and on Monday, January 14th, the first round of voting shall begin.

Comments
  1. Note: Moved from incorrect category.

    Padding the nominations goes against what the CBAs are about. Just admit you blundered by adding this category [military blogs] and drop it.

  2. Northern BC Dipper says:

    I quote the rules:

    There is no limit to the number of blogs (either your own or someone else’s) you may nominate…

    So, if you want to call a bunch of blogs nominated by an anonymous person “padding”, have fun doing so.

  3. They weren’t nominated by an anonymous person. They were added by one of the administrators to fill the category.

  4. saskboy says:

    And that’s a problem how Robert? Administrators are people too, and their opinions count like any one else.

  5. pogge says:

    Administrators are people too…

    Is that an admission that an administrator padded the nominations by adding 7 in 3 minutes while posing as an anonymous visitor? “Cos that goes beyond being against what the awards are about. It’s just ridiculous.

    You may have noticed I’ve remained silent for quite a while. Because you’re private citizens acting as volunteers and in a context where those with a competing vision can always start their own awards, I figured there was a point where you were entitled to do it your way even if I thought your way was dead wrong. So for a while I’ve been really torn between remaining silent and actively defending your right to do this badly. But I see I didn’t need to worry. You can do this badly without any encouragement from me.

  6. saskboy says:

    Pogge, what are the “awards about”? If I hear your vision( and/or maybe Robert’s), perhaps I can tell you if I agree with your sentiment or not.

    Personally I think the awards are about bringing Canadian blogs to the attention of people looking for the most popular of them. There’s no better way than through a public vote to determine a popularity ranking of Canadian blogs that takes into account both readers and bloggers.

    Where me and my team have failed to either attract or engage genres of Canadian bloggers, is not a reflection on their blogs’ quality, or popularity, it’s solely our failure. Where you see a problem in last minute nominations, I see a last minute attempt to engage a genre of Canadian bloggers who can either use or decline the additional exposure as they see fit.

  7. pogge says:

    I see a last minute attempt to engage a genre of Canadian bloggers who can either use or decline the additional exposure as they see fit.

    I see a group playing a game with the process to make their decisions look better. It makes me wonder what other games they’ve played. I’m sorry but this calls the integrity of the process into question because you’re not simply allowing the community to have it’s say, you’re forcing things.

  8. pogge says:

    Or to put it another way:

    You guys write blogs about politics so you should be familiar with the concept of managing perceptions. The perception now is that if you’re unhappy with what the voters have done, you’re quite happy to intervene in the process and to pretend to be anonymous while doing it. Even if this was done with the best of intentions, it was dumb.

  9. saskboy says:

    Pogge, you didn’t really answer the part of the question though, that covers your view of what the awards are about, just what they should not be about – the Operator’s best intentions.

    “I’m sorry but this calls the integrity of the process into question because you’re not simply allowing the community to have it’s say, you’re forcing things.”

    That’s your view, and I don’t agree. It’s not holding a gun to anyones’ head. No one has to vote if they don’t want to, no one in the blogging community is being forced. Nominating blogs up until the last minute of the arbitrary deadline is clearly within the rules, and gives more of the blogging community a chance to participate despite our failure to interest those bloggers up to that point.

    Remember that we’ve never said the Ops couldn’t have a say in who is nominated, and we get one vote per category per round, like everyone else. If you don’t trust us to act fairly, any action of us nominating or not nominating a group would not likely set your mind at ease.

  10. pogge says:

    you didn’t really answer the part of the question though

    Distraction. What’s at issue is the transparency of the process.

    we’ve never said the Ops couldn’t have a say in who is nominated

    There are probably a lot of things you’ve never said. That doesn’t mean it would be OK to do them.

    You haven’t just had a say in who is nominated. You’ve waited ’til the last minute and then, under the cover of anonymity, padded the nominations in the very category that was held up as the example during the controversy about a category for feminist bloggers. The perception — there’s that word again — is that you’re more concerned with avoiding giving others the opportunity to say “Told you so” than with the transparency of the process and with allowing the voters to have their say. (In this case, their say is that this may not be a viable category.) Yes, it’s just my opinion but I think that sucks.

  11. cenobyte says:

    I don’t think the integrity of the system is under question. Anyone can nominate anybody. The judges/adjudicators/operators don’t do the judging; their job is to decide whether a blog that is nominated meets the requirements for the categories in which it is nominated.

    I don’t think it matters who does the nominating. The operators could spend the next three years compiling lists of all the blogs in Canada, separating them into their respective categories, and then ‘padding’ the categories (even though it’s not ‘padding’; it’s nominating. They would have been ‘padding’ if they were posted after the nomination deadline, which I don’t think they were) to somehow attempt to alter the process.

    But it still wouldn’t work, because the people doing the *nominating* (whether its CDNBA operators/adjudicators or not) are not the ones doing the *judging*. Which is to say, Saskboy gets one vote in each category, just the same as you or I.

    In fact, you could make the argument that if the operators *did* “pad” the nominations, the ones added last would have the *least* advantage because they are at the *end* of the list, giving participants less time to review them (because, of course, the people voting in the CDNBAs have been spending the last few days and weeks going over the nominated blogs).

    The process *is* transparent. The operators adjudicate whether the nominated blogs adhere to the requirements of each category. If there is a discrepancy, then editorial action is taken (sometimes duplicate nominations are removed, for instance). There would be no difference in pogge nominating seven blogs in one category on the last day of nominations than if Saskboy did it.

    The *nominations* are done in the spirit of being as inclusive as possible, to get as much exposure for as many Canadian blogs as possible. Getting those blogs extra hits, extra attention, and extra views is a *good* thing, regardless of where it comes from.

    Now, if the operators/adjudicators of the CDNBAs were somehow padding the *voting*, I would encourage you to take note and protest that vigorously and vehemently.

    In most awards of recognition (provincial book awards, for example), anyone can nominate anything. In many cases, the people doing the nominating cannot also vote on the nominations.

    Would it make peace to request that the adjudicators of the CDNBAs not be permitted to vote on the nominated blogs?

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